Okay, it’s a bite off Ed Sullivan and it’s really not a “show,” but there may be no better way to describe the stature achieved by the 7F Users Group’s annual meeting in the gas-turbine-based sector of the electric power industry. The 2008 Conference in Greenville, SC, May 13-16, attracted more owner/operators (254), more exhibitors (72), more sponsors (19), and more user speakers (15) than any frame user-group meeting in history—unofficially, of course.
At a 7F conference there’s something of value for every participant, all the time. Corporate America could learn a thing or two about organization and what the term “value proposition” means from the empowered steering committee of industry professionals—volunteers all—who develop this week-long event that Sheila Vashi and her colleagues from Marietta (Ga)-based Vision-Makers make happen.
Paul White, manager of gas-turbine (GT) O&M for Dominion Energy, chaired this year’s meeting at the Hyatt Regency Greenville and then passed the baton to the 2009 Chair Ed Fuselier, director of engineering (operations) for Direct Energy (Sidebar 1). Next year’s meeting will be at Atlanta’s Renaissance Waverly Hotel, May 12-15.
1. Steering committee, 2008-2009
Chairman: Ed Fuselier, Direct Energy
Vice Chairman: Richard Clark, SCE Energy
Harley Aaron, Dow Chemical Co
Carey Frost, Progress Energy
Jeff Gillis, ExxonMobil Chemical
Sam Graham, Tenaska Inc
Art Hamilton, Calpine Corp
Bob Holm, OxyChem
Bill Kessler, Consolidated Edison Co of NY Inc
Robert Mayfield, Tenaska Inc
Dave Merkley, Tenaska Inc
Peter So, Calpine Corp
Eugene Szpynda, New York Power Authority
Miles Valentine, Tampa Electric Co
Paul White, Dominion Energy
Owner/operators of GE 7F engines interested in participating in the 2009 meeting who are not registered members of the 7F Users Group are urged to submit their professional profiles as soon as possible via the membership drop-down menu at http://GE7FA.Users-Groups.com/Membership/UserCandidate.shtml. Only registered members are invited to attend the annual conferences.
Likewise, companies interested in participating in upcoming meetings as a sponsor or exhibitor must complete a vendor profile for review by the steering committee. Do this at http://GE7FA.Users-Groups.com/Membership/AffiliateCandidate.shtml. Only companies approved by the steering committee receive invitations.
Greenville venue adds another dimension to the meeting. GE 7FAs power the majority of large combined cycles across America and also find application in large process-plant cogeneration service and increasingly as peakers. More than 1000 of these engines have been manufactured in Greenville for customers around the world; North America is home to about 700 operating units.
A highlight of this year’s meeting was a tour of the OEM’s 7F manufacturing facility. Actually there were several tours—two Monday afternoon for the early registrants and two on Tuesday, the day before the technical meeting—because of tour-group size limitations. If you have never visited GE’s Greenville plant and you have an opportunity to do so, go.
2. 7F golf tournament
It was the best 7F golf tournament ever, according to organizers Rick Parker, Zokman Products Inc, and Lee C Wood, Wood Group Gas Turbine Services. There were plenty of players, many prizes, and lots of fun at the Verdae Greens Golf Club. Sheila Vashi and her colleagues at Vision-Makers selected the course and handled registration.
Zokman and Wood Group sponsored the refreshments.
Prizes for the first-, second-, and third-place teams were presented by AGTServices Inc, Amsterdam, NY; Pratt & Whitney Power Systems, Windsor, Ct; and Liburdi Turbine Services Inc, Davidson, NC. Sponsors of the long-drive and closest-to-the-pin awards were Gas Turbine Efficiency, Orlando; Industrial Air Flow Dynamics Inc, Glastonbury, Ct; Parker Hannifin Corp, Cleveland; Praxair Surface Technologies, Alpharetta, Ga; and Universal Plant Services, Deer Park, Tex.
Recall that the 2007 tournament was challenged by multiple special sessions in the same time slot and they pulled many user-golfers off the greens and into meeting rooms. This year, with record conference attendance and great weather, and only HRST Inc’s F-class HRSG spotlight session to compete against, 18 foursomes teed-off and completed 18 holes on Monday, May 12.
The day’s best golfers were:
Gene Kozerski, Southern Power
Eric Reeves, Southern Power
Daniel Francis, Southern Power
Gary Ratliff, Universal Plant Services
Ron Humelsine, Mirant Corp
Ken Nalwasky, Praxair Surface Technologies
David Catron, Praxair Surface Technologies
John Bottoms, Liburdi Turbine Services Inc
Al Reiter, Duke Energy
Scott Jacobucci, Energy Services Inc
Todd Caouette, Pratt & Whitney Power Systems
Rick Parker, Zokman Products Inc
Richard Clark, SCE Energy
Ed Fountain, Georgia Power Co
Closest to the pin
Ed Fountain, Georgia Power Co
Farrell O’Malley, Industrial Air Flow Dynamics Inc
Looks like the team to beat in 2009 will be the one with Reeves and Francis. Both were on the winning team in 2007 as well. Clark and Caouette also were repeat winners. Their teams tied for second place in 2007.
The value beyond the exercise associated with walking up and down manufacturing aisles about a quarter of a mile in length is one of perspective. Plant personnel see assembled engines daily; sometimes during an overhaul they’ll see the upper casing half removed and get a “feel” for what’s under the “hood”; a few times in a career they may see the rotor outside the casing. But only rarely do they see a rotor disassembled to get a first-hand view of the individual parts and how they go together.
In addition, there’s the even greater appreciation you gain for the engineering, machining, and quality control that make these behemoths possible. If you’re not in awe of what is accomplished in a factory like GE Greenville the first time you visit, perhaps you should consider another business.
Conference overview. Tuesday, officially the first day of a 7F meeting, is when most people arrive. It features special events and an opportunity to talk shop with colleagues during the welcome reception in the early evening. This year’s special events included the annual 7F golf tournament (Sidebar 2), the GE shop tours noted above, and a special half-day session on F-class heat-recovery steam generators (HRSGs).
Day Two: Wednesday was a full day of user presentations and open-discussion roundtables dedicated to the 7FA’s compressor, turbine, and combustion sections. Vendor fair and reception ran from 6:30 to 10 pm and the ballroom was a hotbed of activity most of that time. An added feature this year was six 20-min sponsor presentations during the exhibition to update users on developments in repair technologies as well as on some new highly engineered products (Sidebar 3). These are profiled on pages 137-141.
GE Energy, Atlanta, Ga
PSM, Jupiter, Fla
Young & Franklin Inc, Liverpool, NY
Advanced Turbine Support Inc, Gainesville, Fla
PIC Turbine Services, Marietta, Ga
Pratt & Whitney Power Systems, Windsor, Ct
Sulzer Hickham Inc, LaPorte, Tex
Turbine Energy Solutions, Houston, Tex
Wood Group Gas Turbine Services, Houston, Tex
AGTServices Inc, Amsterdam, NY
Donaldson Company Inc, Minneapolis, Minn
Gas Turbine Controls Corp, Ardsley, NY
Haldor Topsoe Inc, Houston, Tex
HRST Inc, Eden Prairie, Minn
Hydratight, Houston, Tex
North American Energy Services, Issaquah, Wash
ProEnergy Services, Sedalia, Mo
Trinity Turbine Technology LP, Iowa Colony, Tex
ZOK—Zokman Products Inc, Ft Wayne, Ind
Thursday was GE Day and the morning of Day Four (Friday) featured user presentations and open discussions on auxiliaries and generators.
Preconference session on HRSGs
The “spotlight” session that HRST Inc, Eden Prairie, Minn, has conducted in conjunction with the 7F meeting for the last several years is designed for senior-level plant personnel who want a refresher on heat-recovery steam generators and an update on industry concerns with large triple-pressure HRSGs. The course starts after lunch Monday, the day before the 7F sessions begin, and runs almost until the doors open for the welcome reception.
Attendance is capped at 60 to ensure that everyone’s questions are answered and that a collegial environment conducive to productive discussion is maintained. Regarding the value of participation, you be the judge: Users have to pay a special registration fee and forego golf to attend the session, and this year, like last, there were no empty seats.
The course agenda is as follows:
- Characteristics of F-class HRSGs. This is a short refresher.
- Non-pressure-part problem areas.
- Pressure-part problem areas.
- Layup and offline corrosion.
Training is only one of HRST’s core competencies. It’s a service line that evolved from the company’s boiler solutions work: inspection and analysis, field technical advice, engineered products (such as casing penetration seals, access doors, etc), and design upgrades.
You may be aware that HRST hosts a three-day HRSG Academy twice annually for those needing to dig into the nitty-gritty of boiler O&M. It’s ideal training both for the novice and intermediate-level personnel. If you know relatively little about HRSGs, you’ll learn basics from boiler experts (not teachers) and gain the confidence necessary to do the best job possible after returning to the plant.
Non-pressure-part issues. Amy Sieben, PE, handled the segment on issues with non-pressure parts, covering inlet ducts, firing ducts, casing penetration seals, and access doors. She began with inlet-duct liners, reminding everyone that the big square “washers” that hold the liner in place should not be able to spin. Sieben suggested checking every washer during every scheduled inspection—combustion, hot gas path, and majors.
Spinning washers? The editors “auditing” the course wondered how a roomful of top plant personnel could really think that spinning washers were more important than playing golf. But they were if your responsibilities included maintaining top efficiency and maximizing availability.
Here’s why. Washers left spinning often will saw through the stud freeing the liner plate. Liner plates may lift up or come off altogether, allowing insulation to be sucked out, travel downstream, and blind the tube fins, CO catalyst, and/or SCR catalyst. Sometimes you can remove the insulation, sometimes that’s not so easy. Sieben mentioned one plant that had to toss the catalyst and install new. Expensive: The bill was $1 million. You can play golf anytime.
4. How to avoid problems with casing penetration seals
During the warranty period carefully inspect seal design and installation.
Annually, inspect for deterioration; repair promptly.
If fabric seals are used in the HP superheater and reheater areas, inspect quarterly using both online infrared imaging and offline visual methods.
Pooling rainwater on roof casing adds corrosion risk when offline.
Repair seals promptly but keep in mind that a design upgrade may be required to mitigate the problem.
Remove seals periodically to inspect piping—especially seals exposed to prolonged periods of moisture (tube leaks, water washing, off-line condensation, cold feedwater).
Beware of stainless-steel bellows under floors that can trap and accumulate offline condensation.
One word of caution when you find “spinners”: Be sure the maintenance team tack welds them to the stud or nut, never to the liner itself. Liner plates are designed to grow and slide independently.
Sieben rolled right through the presentation, showing users how to check tube baffles for mechanical integrity and how to fix damage when you find it; where to look for cracks and worn or broken supports on flow distribution baffles; ditto for duct-burner elements. By then there was no thought of golf in anyone’s mind.
Liners downstream of burners got some attention, too. Be on the lookout for wear and tear caused by the selection of inappropriate materials, Sieben warned. Many liners, she continued, are designed to the bulk gas temperature without considering the radiant energy from the burner, which can easily add hundreds of degrees Fahrenheit. This is a mistake. In some cases, the best material for a liner in this area is Type-310 stainless steel, not the much-less-expensive Type 304.
Casing penetration seals generated considerable interest. Many illustrations of why rain in-leakage occurs at roof seals, the damage those leaks can do, and the housekeeping problems they create (Sidebar 4). Overheating at steam-pipe penetrations because of inadequate separation was another topic covered. Then Sieben moved on to floor drains.
After viewing 50—yes 50—slides on problems with casing penetration seals you had to come away with the feeling that their location, and the type of seal selected for a given application, often were afterthoughts at the design stage. This part of Sieben’s presentation obviously was of great value to maintenance managers in the room. It showed them where to look for seal problems and identified corrective action—to the extent that design oversights could be corrected.
But the slides also should be mandatory viewing for anyone participating in the design review of their company’s next HRSG. Sieben showed how easy it would have been to avoid many of the problems dogging the industry today. No reason to repeat the mistakes of the past.
Problems with pressure parts were addressed by Bryan Craig, PE. He covered superheaters/reheaters (warped tubes, fatigue cracking, desuperheaters, condensate management), evaporators (drum issues, flow-accelerated corrosion), economizers/preheaters (fatigue cracking, FAC, dewpoint corrosion).
Craig began with warped tubes. Visual examination is all that’s necessary to find them. Causes of “spaghetti” tubes include desuperheater leakage, water hammer, shipping/construction damage, differential heating/cooling, etc. The good news, he said, was that, in general, warped tubes are reliable provided the stress mechanism is not repeated.
HRST is well known in the industry for its desuperheater troubleshooting work. Craig covered the importance of location and proper piping design, how to identify and prevent leakage, nozzle types, etc. He had a series of valuable slides that identified risks associated with startup and low-load operation—including condensate management, ramp rates, water hammer—and how to mitigate them.
5. Saluting the 2008 user speakers
Richard Clark, SCE Energy
Jeff Gillis, ExxonMobil
Warren Hein, Reliant Energy
Ishigami Hideyuki, Chubu Electric Power Co (Japan)
Ryan Hoog, CPS Energy
Bob Jelley, ExxonMobil
Paul Palmer, Cogentrix Energy Inc
Michael Payne, Dominion Energy
Chris Schrock, ExxonMobil
Jed Shaw, Brighton Beach Power LP
Peter So, Calpine Corp
David Such, Xcel Energy
David Wilkes, American Electric Power Co
Andy Wilshire, Hartwell Energy Facility
Sang Woo Yoon, Southern Power Ltd (Korea)
Regarding condensate management, for example, Craig showed with simple diagrams what happens when condensate is not purged from lower headers before every start—that after explaining how condensate got there in the first place. For attendees charged with troubleshooting their steam systems, he gave some pointers on proper drain sizing, location, operation, etc.
Many of these topics are discussed in detail in the “HRSG Users Handbook,” available through the HRSG User’s Group (www.hrsgusers.org); HRST contributed to that effort.
HRSG lay-up and storage. Sieben returned to the front of the room to provide guidance on proper lay-up and storage of HRSGs. The message was that many bad things that can happen when boilers are not laid-up properly—for example, oxygen pitting, corrosion fatigue and under-deposit corrosion on the water side of the unit; corrosion of tubes, fins, pipes, and hangers on the gas side. Pictures of oxygen attack in a steam drum got everyone’s attention.
The pros and cons of wet and dry storage were reviewed thoroughly, as were the benefits of stack dampers and duct balloons. Guidelines on the selection of nitrogen, desiccants, dehumidified air, and vapor corrosion inhibitors for dry storage certainly would help attendees make good decisions.
Gas-side corrosion control was another discussion topic. Sieben’s real ugly photos of boiler floor corrosion and piles of rust on the floor under finned tube bundles made everyone sit up and pay attention, even as the afternoon wound down.
User presentations stimulated much of the discussion during the compressor session, which ran until lunch on Day Two. First-hand accounts of problems/solutions by owner/operators are the lifeblood of user-group meetings. The 7F steering committee, in particular, places great value on the participation of plant personnel from the podium. In Greenville, 15 users presented (Sidebar 5); next year’s goal is 20.
To get to that level, and beyond, the committee developed an essay on how to select and develop a plant “experience” for presentation (p 132). It’s a valuable roadmap for first-time presenters and a good review for many others. The essay also offers guidance on how to prepare for your delivery—this to ensure that the experience is both professionally rewarding and enjoyable.
Inlet filters were scheduled first. Subject was one plant’s experience with a service firm that tracks filter cleanliness, removes them when a specified pressure drop is reached, cleans filters with high-pressure air, and reinstalls them. Filter integrity is verified using standard industry tests.
Firm also disposes of used filters in an EPA-approved manner for customers that want that service and rents warehouse space for spare filters. Back-of-the-envelope arithmetic probably is sufficient to decide if this type of service is more cost effective than just replacing filters in-kind using plant staff.
Those users opting to buy filters and in need of a quick refresher on filtration basics are referred to www.combinedcyclejournal.com/archives.html, click Spring 2004, click “Selecting gas-turbine inlet air systems. . .” on cover.
Inlet bleed heat. A 300-series stainless-steel expansion joint in the IBH system for a 7FA+e engine in daily cycling service failed. Recall that the IBH system protects the compressor in cold weather and permits GT operation at loads perhaps as low as 50% of rated output while holding emissions in check. The system’s inlet valve is closed when the unit is at full capacity and opens as load drops, admitting 130-psig compressed air.
Failure of the expansion joint was identified by a loud, high-pitch (20 kHz) noise which could be heard 100 yards from the unit. Noise was caused by air whistling through cracks in the convolutions. Ultrasonic probe identified crack locations, most often on inner convolutions. Analysis revealed that crack propagation generally was slow. Plant personnel think at least some cracks may have been visible for as long as six months before whistling began. Longest crack was just under a foot in length.
Important to note is that IBH systems are not part of the OEM’s scope. They are installed by the mechanical contractor, which means each system is unique. Another thing plant personnel discovered was that GE documents do not discuss life-cycle requirements.
This system was designed for the base-load service intended; however, the plant now serves the 5-min market and GT load can change by 30 MW within that time period. Engineers found that the expansion joint was designed for 1400 cycles, which translates to a lifetime of 2.5 years in peaking duty. The joint did better than that, however, lasting 2200 cycles.
The entire expansion-joint assembly was replaced with one designed for 20,000 thermal cycles (40-yr life expectancy); cost was only double that of the original. Speaker suggested that his colleagues check their IBH systems and compare design conditions to actual. He also warned that noise might not precede failure.
Someone in the audience suggested that plants located on the seacoast may be especially vulnerable because there was the possibility that chlorides would attack the 300-series stainless.
Inlet guide vanes. A user said that the IGV actuator arm failed in fatigue on a 7FA that operates continuously at up to full load. Another reported the same type of failure. He found a great deal of wear and backlash on the rack-and-pinion drive and thought that might have had something to do with the failure. Yet another user thought some actuator arms supplied to the OEM might have been “beefier than others.”
There was considerable discussion on this and other actuator problems—including Belleville washers being installed incorrectly (upside down) by the OEM.
How did that happen? Damage to one R7 blade near its root was found on a base-load Model 7231 DLN2.6-equipped 7FA. Initial thought was that it might have been caused by something left in the machine during the last hot-gas-path inspection in 2004. However, no other damage—upstream or downstream—was in evidence. Might the damage have occurred during reassembly?
Plant has an LTSA and the OEM provided detailed engineering instructions on how to blend, polish, inspect using fluorescent penetrant, and peen the affected area. It would have been a big deal to replace just one blade.
This case history ignited much discussion on precautions to ensure that nothing is left inside the GT after an outage. One user said his company has well-defined procedures for entering the work area when the compressor and/or turbine upper casings are removed. Equipment, tools, parts that enter/leave this area are carefully monitored. Strict rules require reporting something that dropped, where it dropped, what was dropped (and removed).
One potential source of debris that’s easy to forget is work shoes. It’s easy for rocks to get wedged between the treads on shoe soles/heals. Boots must be checked, even vacuumed at times. Someone suggested that the experience described from the podium might very well have been caused by a pebble. One of the conclusions of the group: You have to weigh carefully the push for ever-faster inspections and repairs against the time required to assure something important won’t be overlooked.
Stacking-bolt failure. Owner with a dozen and a half 7FAs presented on a stacking-bolt failure that initiated a forced outage on high vibration in late July 2007. The rotor, for a Model 7221 7FA, had more than 65,000 total operating yours and more than 1000 starts over its lifetime. It had been installed in one unit from 1996 to 2003 and in another from 2004 until the time of failure. Unstable vibration signatures first appeared in May 2006. Secondary damage caused by the stacking-bolt failure included dents in and cracking of 17th-stage compressor blades, plus wear/missing metal on the inner barrel.
More pertinent facts: The unit was taken out of service for a combustor inspection about five months before the forced outage. A field balance was done at that time and it reduced shaft vibration from about 8 mils to 2. During the week before the outage vibration increased to 12 mils.
Disassembly revealed deterioration in the form of a “little dip” on the surface of the compressor rotor wheel at the aft nut. No defective assembly was noted from records. The rotor had been overhauled and reassembled by GE twice and stacking bolts/nuts had been replaced. Crack initiation was at three points on the inner side of the rotor. Main crack propagation was from the inner to outer side. A corrosion pit was thought to have initiated the crack.
Low- and high-cycle fatigue during start/stop operations caused the bolt failure at the aft nut. Crack is detectable by “doping” the vibration monitoring algorithm, but this owner developed an ultrasonic inspection device/procedure to check its other units. Such failure reportedly is most likely to occur on non-robust-back-end rotors—typically 7221s and some 7231s.
Compressor roundtable. Many items were discussed and many observations were made during the compressor-roundtable discussion. Bullet points below hit some of the highlights:
- Two users with Model 7231s reported damage to the trailing edges of R3 blades. Migration of S3 vanes was said to have been the cause. OEM attributed the damage to relatively minor surge and blended the blades.
- An owner reported losing an S1 shim from the upper half of the casing and had to blend several blades where damage occurred. This generated considerable discussion on shim fixes—including both GE and non-OEM techniques. General feeling was that for R0 through R4, protruding shims should be pulled out if possible. Reason: the ring segments that characterize the first five stator rows typically are rust-welded in place and wouldn’t move with shims missing.
- One participant commented on the OEM’s new water-wash system. He said erosion happens and his concern is that the unit makes it through a major-inspection interval without major work. Technology came into question, but users with LTSAs say they don’t have options and are not concerned.
- A user reported that the titanium nitride sacrificial coating to protect the base metal of compressor blades against water erosion seems to work, but for only a couple of thousand hours.
- A participant reported that two regular (non P-cut) R0 blades cracked at the base; online water washing was not employed. Discussion was dizzying, all over the lot: What can you do with what type of compressor blades, the old online washing system, the new online washing system, in a chloride environment, in a non-chloride environment, etc?
- Two types of blade cracking noted: suction side (less prevalent) and down in the dovetail, below the platform. Fretting leads to cracking; under-cut to relieve stress. Much discussion on this, many affected.
- Restart logic after a shutdown: Can restart from immediately after shutdown until two hours later; cannot restart between two and eight hours after shutdown because the case cools faster than the rotor and rubs result; eight hours or more after shutdown you can restart at any time.
However, if you grind down tips you can start at any time. OEM says it’s a site-by-site thing. Language in the applicable technical information letter is very strict, but the OEM will relax suggestions depending on site conditions and specific parameters. Some users say they were told that the TILs are “guidelines.”
Ask a plant manager where his or her biggest headaches originate and there’s a good chance they will be linked to water or lube-oil chemistry. Maintaining lube-oil in top condition at a combined-cycle plant can be particularly challenging. First, you have to learn the basics of a fluid chemistry and testing procedures that weren’t taught in any chemistry class you took in high school or college.
Once you think you understand the language of lube oil, the real learning begins. Another challenge: You have to deal with independent lube-oil systems for each gas turbine/generator and the steam turbine/generator. Yet another: The prime mover’s hydraulic and lube-oil systems often are served by a common sump, complicating oil selection and treatment.
An owner reported to the group about its efforts to extend lube-oil life. A key element of this program is to standardize where possible lube-oil specifications, testing, and treatment across a fleet of more than two dozen 7FAs at nearly a dozen sites. A fleet of this size certainly can justify a subject specialist in central engineering.
First step was to conduct a fleet baseline assessment by gathering pertinent data for each unit—such as particle counts and the potential for varnish formation. Particle counts were obtained using ISO (International Standards Organization) Cleanliness Code 4406, varnish-potential rating using Quantitative Spectrophotometric Analysis (QSA). Here are a couple of things this user learned during this phase of the project:
- Oil tested immediately looked good; 72 hours later the “still,” cooler sample produced much different numbers.
- ISO 4406 tests may be conducted using a laser particle counter or pore-blockage technique. Laser accuracy is impacted adversely when the oil contains water; particle counts run higher.
- Sampling location is important. To illustrate: The speaker reported a 3-in. layer of foam where No. 1 bearing drains into the sump.
- Tests using an electrostatic oil cleaner produced mixed results. The unit ran for two weeks on oil at room temperature and the varnish potential dropped dramatically. Oil was allowed to sit for a week and a follow-up test revealed varnish potential had shot up again. The electrostatic oil cleaner then was retested with a new filter element. Much better results were achieved in only three days; a week later, varnish potential was up, but not by much.
- Test of a chemical treatment to put varnish back into solution got good results. Was much less expensive than changing oil, which could have easily cost more than $100,000 by the time you pay for the oil, cleaning the system, and disposing of the waste.
- Temperature impacts the clean-up process. This user believes the electrostatic oil cleaner meets expectations only when the oil is cool. Good results were achieved on hot oil with a high-end specialty filter.
- Tests using an anti-spark filter were promising. There was virtually no evidence of static discharge.
- One of the major suppliers of turbine oil has reformulated a product associated with high particle counts.
Share your knowledge at the next meeting with a short presentation
Presentations by plant and central-engineering personnel are the lifeblood of user-group meetings. The main reason owner/operators meet is to learn from the experiences of their colleagues. Everyone knows it’s foolhardy to pay twice for the same lesson.
Equipment manufacturers and services providers do a satisfactory job from the podium primarily because the steering committees for the various gas-turbine user groups encourage them stick to the technical content promised and refrain from sales pitches. But these speakers don’t live with the idiosyncrasies and faults of what they sell and this limits their access to information that usually is most beneficial to you.
The bottom line: If users generally get the best ideas for improving plant practices, performance, and safety from other users, it follows that the more presentations by users the greater a meeting’s value. Think of it simply as quid pro quo—you help me and I’ll help you.
It’s difficult to get some users to the front of the room. Reasons typically include: “I have no new ideas.” “I don’t have time to prepare a presentation.” “I’ve never made a presentation before.” One of the steering committee’s responsibilities is to help colleagues think more positively of what they have to offer the group and to provide the encouragement and help necessary to make their presentations happen.
Members of the steering committee for the 7F Users Group compiled their thoughts on how to develop and deliver a winning presentation for a user-group conference. Having an audience of receptive colleagues makes the experience particularly gratifying.
Begin with a goal. The committee recommends beginning by writing down the goal of your proposed presentation. It should be to convey concisely information you wish someone had told you so you could have (1) anticipated or avoided a situation, (2) made an improvement, (3) controlled or reduced costs or minimized schedule impact, and/or (4) improved plant practices.
Pick your topic. It may take a while to convince yourself that you have the knowledge and experience others would benefit from—that’s normal. Once you’re convinced, it’s also normal for your mind to race off in many different directions because you suddenly realize you have lots of ideas to share.
Pick one event or issue that you were/are personally involved with. Experienced presenters advise that focus is a prerequisite for success at the podium. Save the other ideas for future meetings. To help you select a manageable topic for your first/next presentation, the steering committee offered the following suggestions:
- Discuss a forced-outage event with significant consequences—such as downtime, equipment damage, sister units inspected that reveal the same distress, etc. Consider inviting OEM participation to provide technical details and/or to answer specific questions.
- Provide details of a root cause analysis (RCA) to help your colleagues better understand the reasons behind a particular operational anomaly or equipment failure and what they should anticipate, inspect, trend at their plants.
- Cover maintenance issues, outage practices, outage findings: Can be general, as-found condition, or something specific to the outage scope (planned or unplanned).
- Review inspection methods, especially experience with in-situ nondestructive examination techniques that help you make better decisions faster.
- Discuss repair methods, particularly new onsite or in-shop techniques that offer quality, cost, and/or schedule benefits.
- Offer improvements in plant practices and performance, equipment monitoring, etc.
- Present first-application experience with a new “fix” or product (OEM beta test, for example).
How to proceed. Once you have decided on a topic, contact someone on the steering committee. Do this several months in advance of the conference if you can. E-mail is the best way to communicate because it’s easy for the addressee to relay your idea to others on the committee with his or her recommendation.
Provide sufficient information to facilitate decision-making. For example, include a three- or four-sentence summary of your proposed presentation’s content as well as three or four sentences on your experience—both general and how it relates to your chosen subject.
Don’t forget to include office and cell phone numbers in case the committee wants more detail. With people as busy as they are these days, it typically takes about a month for the steering committee to get back to you with a decision and comments/suggestions.
This should allow sufficient time to get the necessary travel approvals, make reservations, and prepare your presentation.
Preparing your presentation. Start by gathering the photos and illustrations that support your observations, conclusions, work done, etc. Some topics benefit from many photos—a rotor disassembly and life assessment, for example. Others, such as a new procedure, might require only one or two block-type diagrams.
Make sure your photos are crisp and bright. Use callouts and/or arrows to focus audience attention on specific elements of the photo; put circles around key findings, such as weld inclusions in an x-ray. Callouts and/or captions for photos and illustrations should be terse and in large type so they can be read from the back of the room where the seats always seem to fill up first.
Present important details in bullet-point format. Stick with technical facts; avoid commercial issues. Be sure to start by stating your goal clearly and concisely.
Just because computers allow use of videos, animation, etc, to enhance a presentation, that doesn’t necessarily make them a good idea. Resist irrational exuberance. In certain instances—such as demonstration of fog-nozzle performance for an evaporative cooling system—video streaming is valuable and should be considered seriously. But don’t bet the farm it will work properly in the meeting room unless you communicate “special needs” with the steering committee well in advance of the conference.
Note, too, that your presentation doesn’t require both a beginning and an end. It’s perfectly acceptable to present a problem you’re faced with, the facts you believe are pertinent to arriving at a solution, what you’ve tried already and the results obtained. Ask the attendees for their thoughts/ideas. Odds are good that someone in the room has had a similar—perhaps even the same—problem. If not, then the group quite possibly is learning about an emerging problem. Everybody wins.
If your presentation is of the problem/solution type, remember to explain concisely how the solution was arrived at, what was considered but didn’t work, lessons learned, etc.
Final steps. After completing your presentation, run through it a couple of times alone and in front of a mirror. Don’t be too critical, you always come across better than you think. Time yourself on the second practice run. If you took more than about 15 minutes, there’s probably too much detail. Shorten up your explanation and/or pull a few of the least-important slides. If the audience needs more information you’ll be asked for it during the Q&A period.
Now you’re ready for a “dry run” in front of colleagues. A good place to do this is in the break room at the plant, a relaxed and informal setting. Best to have three or four listeners (including at least one unfamiliar with the subject matter), but you can get by with a couple if need be.
Ask your peers what they (1) learned from the presentation, (2) thought of your body language and if you came across as knowledgeable and relaxed, (3) wanted to know in addition to what you told them, etc. Factor in relevant comments and finalize the presentation.
Load the presentation on a CD or flash drive and send it to the steering committee member assigned to work with you. Chances are you won’t hear anything but a “looks good” before you show up for the conference. That means it’s fine.
When you pack for the conference, be sure to bring an electronic copy of your final presentation on a flash drive as well as a hard copy in case you present from behind a podium without a clear line of sight to the screen. You might also consider saving to the “stick,” additional photos pertinent to the discussion. They may be of value during the Q&A session. A watch may prove helpful, so might a backup laser pointer.
Showtime. The morning of your session, visit the meeting room early to see where you’ll be presenting from, how to operate the projector and laser pointer, verify that your program loads properly, and reserve a seat a few rows back from the front of the room with easy access to the aisle.
When your name is called, relax by walking deliberately to the podium and checking the time. Open by introducing yourself and your company by name. Say a few words about your responsibilities to “connect” with the audience and begin. Check your watch once to be sure you’re sticking to the presentation and not adding superfluous information; never worry about wrapping-up early. When you finish, thank the audience and ask for questions. If time is tight, suggest meeting in the foyer during the next coffee break.
You’ll do well.
The floor discussion that followed this presentation might have gone on forever had it not been for lunch. When it comes to lube oil, everyone has at least some experience and most have an opinion or two. The takeaway from the dialog was that the electrostatic oil cleaner was good for cleaning up hard particles while an alternative particle agglomeration device was particularly effective on soft particles.
A couple of attendees said they saw little, if any, improvement in oil quality when using the electrostatic unit on an operating turbine. A concern with the system agglomerating soft particulates was that some of the agglomerated material would be squeezed through the filter.
Lube oil was back on the program Friday morning. Speaker began with a review of problems encountered during six years of base-load operation with conventional turbine oil, including much varnish and several trips attributed to it. No single element was ever identified as the main culprit. Turbine oil lasted about two years or so before varnish buildup became an issue. Servos fouled and adversely impacted operation of gas valves. Electrostatic oil clean-up system removed only insoluble varnish; varnish byproducts remained in solution until they agglomerated into large particles.
Solution for this user: Don’t try to manage varnish, just don’t make it. Plant switched to polyalkaline glycol (PAG). Presentation was made after six months of operating experience with the new fluid. Tests conducted just prior to the meeting showed additives still were in their original concentrations, so it was assumed that the fluid had not degraded.
Other important points made:
- PAG can oxidize at high temperatures, but byproducts are soluble in the base oil.
- PAG-compatible materials must replace all rubber and paper in the system—for example, O-rings, gaskets, etc.
- The small amount of original oil that remains in the system after draining does not adversely impact PAG, so a detergent flush is not needed.
- Verify proper operation of the emergency dc lube-oil pump with the higher-gravity PAG. Power draw will increase.
- PAG is the base fluid. Additives determine its suitability for lube-oil and hydraulic control purposes.
- Most heavy industrial experience with PAG has been in turbocompressors. One unit was said to have operated for more than 80,000 hours.
Interestingly, equipment/services suppliers directly involved in the lube-oil projects profiled above, and firms with similar offerings, were available for consultation at the vendor fair—specifically, American Chemical Technologies Inc, Analysts Inc, C C Jensen Inc, EPT Inc/CleanOil, ISOPur Fluid Technologies Inc, and Kleentek.
The beehive of activity on the exhibition floor suggested users were actively looking for additional information on subjects addressed by colleagues from the podium or during the open discussion. Behind closed doors, supplier names are mentioned.
Readers can get useful background on lube-oil issues by accessing back articles at www.combinedcyclejournal.com/archives.html: Click Summer 2004, click “Maintain lube oil within spec. . .” on the issue cover; click 3Q/2005, click “The lowdown on the sticky subject of lubricant varnish”; click 3Q/2006, click “Gas-turbine valve sticking. . .” and “Assess the condition of your oils. . . .”
There were two user presentations in this session before the open discussion period. First described an in-situ first-stage wheel repair for a 7FA+e. Damaged wheel had a burr in a dovetail groove; shot-peening was essential because of the burr’s location. Repair was successful. The speaker also reported on repairs on a sister unit. First- and third-stage wheels were damaged by a balance weight. They also were successfully repaired and shot-peened in place.
A failure of the cooling tip cap on a first-stage bucket for a 7FB was reported on next. Operating data gave no indication of the problem. Unit had fewer than 6200 fired hours and only 450 starts since commercial start. Speaker said another user had the same experience, accompanied by extensive leading-edge oxidation.
Platform creep indications were identified on first-stage buckets; bucket migration was in evidence. The buckets were installed a year earlier during a combustor inspection and had seen fewer than 2200 fired hours. They were removed and inspected using an immersion UT process. Speaker said the OEM was working on a new bucket design.
Recommendations from the podium: Conduct borescope inspections annually, be ready for surprises, and line up a set of replacement buckets in case they’re necessary.
Other issues discussed concerned the forward seal pins and a bucket lockwire that was found disengaged. Improper installation if the lockwire was thought to be the cause of that issue. Users were urged to carefully monitor unit repairs and to ensure rigorous QA/QC during installation of locking hardware.
The roundtable discussion that followed the prepared presentations covered a wide range of issues and observations—including high wheel-cavity temperatures, second-stage bucket shroud failures, starts limit for second-stage buckets, condition of third-stage buckets, casing galling, weld repair of turbine cases, quality issues associated with the various casting houses supplying buckets and nozzles (defects can be traced by serial numbers), etc.
The 7F Users Group steering committee does a particularly good job guiding the roundtable discussions. The discussion leader is at the front of the room and there are committee members working the aisles with handheld microphones. That is not unusual.
However, this is a big group.
Holding the interest of the audience through the entire roundtable and keeping 250 people focused on a single subject is a difficult job. Good equipment is a must. Also, participants in the audience must be accessed with a “mike” quickly. A few extra seconds of dead time spawns local conversation groups that would kill the session. Having four or five motivated floor stewards who can “fly” up and down the aisles is necessary.
Another thing you learn sitting through one of these sessions is that while everyone’s either an owner and/or operator of a 7F there a many different versions of this machine—not just 7221s, 7231s, 7241s, but also units with components made of different materials, slight but meaningful design variations, etc. Perhaps the most outstanding attribute of the floor stewards is their intimate knowledge of the entire product line.
When someone asks a question that leaves others scratching their heads, at least one member of the floor team understands and can translate. That’s necessary to keep the dialog moving. Also necessary are floor stewards like these who are not tempted to make a presentation themselves—another discussion killer.
A user presentation on the Modified Wobbe Index and the impact of variable fuel-gas quality on a DLN2.6 combustion system drove the entire session. Discussion included liquids in the gas supply, flashbacks, combustion dynamics, emissions, flame stability, the OEM’s OpFlex™ Wide Wobbe control system, etc.
GE Energy’s 7F technology team presented on Thursday morning the company’s latest modifications and improvements for the compressor, including R0 blades, as well as for the turbine, stator vanes, and auxiliaries. The team leader discussed the benefits of technology investment. The afternoon was dedicated to breakout sessions on combustion, controls, and accessories that included a Q&A period.
F-class technology milestones achieved in 2007, as reported by the OEM, included the following: The 1000th unit shipped; fleet surpassed 20-million operating hours; fleet achieved 99.4% operating reliability, 98.8% starting reliability, and 95.5% availability.
Looking ahead, GE expects commercial rollout of a redesigned compressor for the 7F fleet during 2Q/2009 (concurrent introduction for new units and the installed base), 2Q/2010 for the 9F fleet, and 4Q/2010 for the 6F fleet.
User presentations on auxiliaries included a steam-turbine Mark V to Mark VI upgrade, bolting and gasket issues, and failure of an atomizing air compressor. One might think that such a pedestrian subject as bolting and gasketing would have no place at an F-technology meeting; guess again. The speaker detailed numerous gas leaks on startup after maintenance on a 7FA+e because of improper gasket selection, poor gasket installation, and/or loose or uneven tightening of flange bolting. Last might have been caused by galling experienced with the GE fasteners.
Here were the steps taken by this owner to minimize the possibility of a similar experience in the future:
- Color-coded gaskets.
- Replaced the OEM-supplied bolts and locknuts with studs, nuts, and lockwashers.
- Established torque ratings.
- Developed check-off sheets for QC personnel to ensure proper gasket material is installed, proper arrangement of studs/nuts/lockwashers is employed, and proper torque is applied.
The last user case history was particularly interesting. The atomizing air compressor for this dual-fuel 7FA commissioned in the mid 1990s was compromised by standing water in the unit that caused rapid deterioration of the impeller, shroud, and housing. A standby compressor was available and placed in service. Speaker noted that if you lose atomizing air you have 11 seconds before you start losing metal.
Water was thought to accumulate when the compressor was on standby during gas firing. Lesson learned: Just because you see water coming out of the drain doesn’t mean there’s no water level in the compressor.
The generator session featured a user’s viewpoint on the failure of a generator breaker disconnect switch, and a presentation by Howard Moudy of National Electric Coil, Columbus, Ohio, on generator issues and maintenance. The latter closes out this report.
As a leading provider of generator services, NEC typically gets a call when a large electrical machine is ailing. Those most likely to respond from NEC are the service managers, one of whom is Moudy, who probably has witnessed just about every problem a generator could have. He is a confident speaker at industry meetings, where his experience and encyclopedic memory are valuable assets for helping users meet management’s expectation of high availability.
In Greenville, Moudy focused on the 7FH2 and 324 generators that most attendees had, dividing his presentation into three parts: basic observations, general maintenance practices, and specific issues concerning the rotor. He began by urging users to check end windings for looseness and vibration every outage; visual indications include dusting and greasing. But that was not enough for this group, attendees wanted to know the source of the damaging vibration.
Moudy explained: Steady-state forces—sometimes called “slot pounding forces”—are a function of the 120-Hz (twice the operating frequency) vibration forces that result from the magnetic flux traveling through the rotor and stator. These pounding forces cause the coil to vibrate radially in the slot. End turns overhang the core and if not properly supported, they will vibrate.
Transient (surge) forces usually occur during a generator fault. If sufficiently large, these forces can break ties and loosen windings—even displace them. Moudy said a bump test to assess your generator’s susceptibility to damaging vibration should be conducted as part of every major outage. It identifies mechanical resonances excitable by the 120-Hz electromagnetic forcing frequency. You want to tune the unit to avoid resonances in this range.
Maintenance practices. Moudy urged users to do all they could to maintain industry-standard maintenance practices during changes of ownership, workforce reductions, budget cuts, and other distractions. This is a prerequisite for assuring high reliability, he said. Knowledge management is particularly important, he continued, because without historical records it is harder to diagnose a generator’s condition or get to the root cause of the failure quickly. To help users objectively evaluate their generator preventive maintenance programs, Moudy offered these guidelines:
Standard equipment monitoring
- Temperature: Monitor continuously, to ensure it is within manufacturer’s limits.
- Grounds: Continuously, to guard against insulation failure.
- Vibration: Continuously, to identify bearing problems, loose components, possibility of imminent failure.
- Lube oil analysis: Semi-annually, or more often, to check for contamination and indications of bearing babbitt deterioration.
- Stator winding: Look for dust, grease, oily surfaces, broken ties, discoloration, and foreign object damage before every outage to help determine scope.
- Stator core: Inspect for damaged iron, loose iron, discoloration, and foreign objects during every major outage with the rotor out.
- Rotor: Look for discoloration from overheating, loose or shifted blocks, and arcing during every outage with the rotor out.
Stator electrical tests
- Insulation resistance or “Megger” with PI (Polarization Index), to determine presence of contamination, every outage.
- Winding resistance, to verify integrity of brazed connections, every outage.
- Hi-pot, to “stress” insulation to prove its integrity, every major outage.
- DC ramp, to determine insulation strength, every major outage.
Rotor electrical tests
- Insulation resistance or “Megger” with PI, to determine presence of contamination, every outage.
- Winding resistance, to verify integrity of brazed connections and find broken conductors, every outage.
- Flux probe, to identify shorted turns when the unit is in operation, annually.
- Pole balance, to identify shorted turns when the unit is stationary, every major outage.
- ElCID (Electromagnetic Core Imperfection Detection), to identify shorted laminations, every major outage.
- Core loop, to detect shorted laminations, after rewinds or core repair.
- Wedge tightness, to locate loose wedges, every major outage.
- Partial discharge, to identify insulation deterioration and verify coil tightness in slot, yearly.
- Bump, to detect end-winding resonant frequencies, every major outage.
- Magnetic particle, to locate surface cracks in magnetic steel components, fans, rings, wedges, shaft, coupling, and hubs, every major outage.
- Dye penetrant, to find surface cracks in nonmagnetic parts, fans, rings, and wedges, every major outage.
- Ultrasonic, to pinpoint interior cracks in metal components, rings, and shaft, every major outage.
Rotor issues. Moudy discussed two rotor issues specific to 324 generators serving 7FA gas turbines: turn-insulation migration and dovetail-groove cracking. The experienced users in the room had heard all about this before and probably had taken corrective action. So there was an opportunity for them to turn off the “concentration button” for a moment. But with more than half of the attendees first-timers there were plenty of people who wanted to hear what Moudy had to say.
Turn-insulation migration occurs when the resin bond between the insulation and copper separates and the insulation—for lack of a better term—migrates. Peaking units are said to be in the highest-risk group. Moudy suggested monitoring and inspection to identify the problem if it exists, then discussed NEC’s Specialized Engineering Solution™ as one corrective procedure (visit www.national-electric-coil.com to learn more).
Dovetail groove cracking in the rotor forging of 324 generators predates identification of turn-insulation migration, which the OEM acknowledged as an issue in early 2000. Concern is that the cracks could initiate catastrophic damage to stator and rotor.
The background: Rotor dovetail cracks can be initiated by fretting at the interface between steel wedges in slot No. 1 and the surface of the rotor dovetail-shaped slot. Crack propagation is a result of high-cycle fatigue caused by rotor bending. The higher the rotor L/D ratio, the easier the rotor bends; thus L/D ratio is a possible correlator with this failure.
A collateral problem is created during severe negative-sequence current events—such as when motoring during turning-gear operation or with the rotor at rest. What happens is that material in the vicinity of the crack overheats, significantly changing material properties. Moudy said that independents like National Electric Coil have developed effective methods for addressing this problem. ccj